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Hot Dog Vendors / What a day
« on: October 22, 2017, 05:59:44 AM »
I have cut down the amount of Festivals that I do every year down to about 4 per year.  All of these are very small festivals.  This year a festival that I did last year almost doubled the cost for the spot.  I came real close to not doing the event.  I ask my wife to help me during the lunch rush this year so that I could get people out fast.  Well I show up and find out that I was the only food vendor expected because no one called the promoter back.  I called my wife and told her this and that I would really need help.  I got everything set up and cooked a little food (for the other vendors to buy before the event started).  My wife shows up at about 10 am.  Then only one other food vendor shows up and set up about 30 feet from me (selling fried Fish and French Fries).  I hate to say but I was glad they did show up.  Well it started about 10:30 and we started to get busy.  We went wide open till 2:30 pm with a line 10 to 15 deep.  We did not stop for a second.  Well then we slowed down to a normal pace and that is when the bad stuff happened.  My wife got over heated and sick (she did not stop to eat or drink for the whole rush).  Well off she went to the ER to get medical treatment (yes she is fine).  So I finished the day at about 3:30 and packed up.  My wife got home about 7 pm and is doing better.  I had a hell of a day.  Good!! Good!!

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: Anybody got a night light solution?
« on: October 21, 2017, 03:35:54 AM »
I use the string lighting that I got at Harbor Freight, puts out a lot of light but you have to have AC Power.

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: Tomorrow is pretty big
« on: October 21, 2017, 03:33:45 AM »
Hope you do Good!! Good!!

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: Cash rolls as opposed to cash drawers
« on: October 16, 2017, 05:55:37 PM »
For me I like the cash in hand or as you call it roll; if I get really busy I just use the stuff method, stuff it in any available pocket.  Normally I have someone at Festivals or Big events to take the money and serve the drinks.  Never used a cash register, Square has a really good system if you are looking the that area.

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: First day of sales was today!
« on: October 12, 2017, 05:03:29 AM »
This is where I get mean.  If you think you will fail you will.  This is a business and must be treated like a business.   The normal rule is to give a location about two weeks before you give up on it.  I assume that at the medical building you checked it out in advance to see which entry most people are using, and that you checked out the flow of people.  For the sign thing, I understand not having money but you must have signs, a flutter flag works the best and it cheap, you can go to lowes and buy stuff to make your own signs and save a little, if you run you cart from 11 till 2 pm and spend 1 hour per day on cleanup and prep that leaves you 20 hours to make a plan, plan the work then work the plan.  You don't have to buy everything today and you are not going to get rich doing this but you can do a lot better if you believe you can.

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: Modernizing an old cart
« on: October 08, 2017, 11:34:48 AM »
I don't live in California and I know why, but I do hope that you make it and I really would like to know when you do, just make a plan, work the plan and plan the work.  I would take the cart to the health department and say could you please tell me what I need to do to make this legal and I would do that before I spent any more money. Also make sure that you and the health department is reading the code for hot dog carts and not a food truck or a food trailer.  Good Good luck

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: First day of sales was today!
« on: October 08, 2017, 11:26:10 AM »
First question is do you have a menu?  I assume that you do.  When people ask you how much a hot dog is say: "I have a menu right there and point to it; then say your best deal is my combo because you get the drink and the chip with it".  I then tell time the condiments that I offer for free.  I also say as you can see I take credit cards too.  Plus tax is included.  Always remember that some people will walk away but for the most part you must sell them a hot dog, people expect to be sold.  If the walk away just wait on the next customer.

Lets say you sell a 2 hot dogs for $5.00 then you take the tax out of the $5 that means at a 8% tax rate they are getting the dogs for 4.60 for two dogs, that is $2.30 each, if they can't pay that they need to go to Walmart and buy some hot dogs and buns and cook their own.

Look at these number and remember you are out there to make money, these are cost projections for a vending business.

                                                                               ONE DOG    ONE DOG              TWO DOG
2017                                                                  BEEF         COMBO BEEF         COMBO BEEF
MEAT TYPE                                                            $0.30      $0.30                        $0.60
BUN                                                                            $0.21      $0.21                           $0.42
CHIPS                                                                                 $0.24                           $0.24
DRINK                                                                                 $0.29                           $0.29
CONDIMENTS                                                            $0.18      $0.18                           $0.36
TOTAL                                                                    $0.69    $1.22                         $1.91
CURRENT PRICE                                                    $2.25      $4.50                         $6.75
PROFIT PER UNIT                                                    $1.56     $3.28                         $4.84
RECOMMEND  PRICE   3X FOOD                               $2.07       $3.66                        $5.73
PROFIT ABOVE RECOMMENDED                            $0.18     $0.84                         $1.02
7% SALES TAX                                                     $0.16     $0.32                           $0.47
PROFIT ABOVE RECOMMENDED AFTER TAXES    $0.02     $0.53                          $0.55

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: Modernizing an old cart
« on: October 05, 2017, 07:06:08 PM »
Let's say that 8.34 lbs (which it does), x 25 Gallon = 208 lbs.  Now in saying that if you have a 5 gal fresh water tank and a 7.5 gallon gray water tank then you would have 150% of Fresh Water.  That should be more than enough to cover any cart.  That weight would be 41.7 lbs.  Now in saying all of that don't read too much into the code, normally you can sit down with the health department and talk to them and have them explain the code.  I will say that there are a lot of carts in California that are currently working and I don't believe for one second that they are hauling 208 lbs plus of water on their carts.  You don't use your ice bin to put ice in that melts, you would use ice packs which has no waste factor.  If you are talking about your external coolers you would not dump them out into your cart sinks, you would take them back to your base of operations to drain them.  Hence no need for extra water.  Your sinks on your cart are for washing your hands and for washing utensils if you need only if you drop them.  For me I carry extra clean utensils that are in a zip lock bag that I use if I drop a utensil.  Your product water is less than 2.5 gallon (WAG), I have never used more than a couple of gallons of water to operate my cart (you only need a couple inches in the full size pan and about 1/2 full in the the half pan and 1/2 full in the 1/3 size pan so why would you take more water than that.  Most vendors only work 4 ours a day on site so why would you need 208 lbs of water.  Sorry I got long winded..

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: Modernizing an old cart
« on: October 04, 2017, 04:42:22 PM »
I am not an expert in this field but you can get a "Build a Cart Program" and find a great list of items to buy it does cost about $99.00.  That is about the best advise I can give, I know my cart real well but others not too good.

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: First day of sales was today!
« on: October 04, 2017, 04:36:08 PM »
I am glad that you did Good!! Good!!  I guess that is why we tell people to do a trial run but truth be known I just set my cart up and hoped for the best.

Drive up, walk up, factory, business, street spot, catering, etc etc... does not really matter, if you are not making money after a fair test period then you have to decide if the location works or not but give every location a chance.  Stand back and look at your operations, would you buy a dog from yourself!!  Is your food good, your operation clean, do people have access to your cart or trailer, can your signs been seen; is your menu readable and the list goes on and on.

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: What are your prices?
« on: September 30, 2017, 04:46:50 AM »
Every area is different case in point, I get 2.25 for a 8/1 All Beef but that same dog may be $3.00 some where else.  The standard is 3 times food cost = price.  This is 1/3 food cost, 1/3 Operating Cost and 1/3 Profit.  In saying all of this if you start out at the higher price and have to go down in price customers will not get mad but they don't like it when you raise your prices.  Over the years I have raised my prices once but I arranged my menu which covered cost in a different manner; point two when I started you could get a two dog combo for $5.00 now my Hot Dog Combo is $4.50 but you get one dog, one chip and one drink.  If you want a two dog combo it is $6.75.  People do not mind paying for quality food, quality service and that is what I give them.

Your cost don't add up in my brain, $200 for Propane, $50 for insurance, $275. for hot dog cart fee.  The propane fee of $200 is not only a little high but a lot high.  I assume the $50 per month, which would be $600 per year but you can get $2 million with flip Insurance and get it for less if you are a member of Vendors United but you have to buy it from their site and pay for a year at a time.  Did not really understate the $275 for hot dog cart fee, I assume you are renting the cart or have it on some kind of lease.  Good!! Good!!

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: Question about water lines
« on: September 18, 2017, 04:53:22 PM »
I don't have that on my cart but I would think if it is gray water it should go to the gray water tank but it it is clean potable water then I would thing the ground but in saying that some places that you vend at do not want anything to go on the ground clear or not so I would run it to my gray water tank to solve that issue.

Hot Dog Vendors / Re: Insurance? How & where should I get it?
« on: September 17, 2017, 06:40:31 AM »
Not that I know but if you are a member of vendors united you also get a small discount.  That is the reason it is so low cost, you pay by the year.

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